
Episode 40: The Promise and Perils of AI in 2024
Friend of GovNavigators (FOGN) Kyle Murphy, Founder of Alpha Advisors, joins the show to talk about the perils and promise of AI tools in 2024. Robert and Adam also cover some hot topics from the break at the top of the episode and preview the week ahead.

Episode 39: GovNavigators Year in Review
Well, we knew this day was bound to come. The GovNavigators have run out of podcast guests....I mean friends. No - just kidding. Instead, listen this week to hear a recap of the year in government management (and much more) from Robert and Adam.

Episode 38: Ye Olde Oracle of Acquisition
This week on the GovNavigators Show, Larry Allen of Allen Federal Business Partners, one of the most knowledgable government acquisition experts in the business joins to share his view of federal contracting right now and gives some end of calendar year advice to both contractors and agencies. He also outs himself as a lover of the pre-shot clock era four corners offense in basketball!

Episode 37: Sparking New Life at the IRS
The GovNavigators chat it up this week with the woman in charge of "sparking new life" into the workforce of the Internal Revenue Service. Chief Human Capital Officer Traci DiMartini shares some of the reasons she decided to leave GSA to head up HR at the IRS, why a sense of humor is the best tool in her HR toolbox, and what big plans are in store for one of the best funded agencies in the government.

Episode 36: Jet Setting to Eastern Europe with GSA
This week, Dan Pomeroy, Deputy Associate Administrator at the Office of Technology Policy at GSA joins the show to talk about the Biden Administration's work to create a more open and accountable government through the fifth National Open Government Action Plan.

Episode 35: The Return of an F-Head: Catching up with Francis Rose
Fed Gov Today Host and (Best?) Friend of GovNavigators Francis Rose joins the show to discuss the latest happenings in government management, his new gig, and proper holiday salutations. Francis remembers his FedHeads hosting days, his beginnings working in government media, and the lost of our friend Charlie Clark.
Show Links
Saying Goodbye to a Giant in Government Journalism

Episode 34: Two Guys Walk Into a Bar . . . Think They Can Fix Congress. And They Can!
The GovNavigators ship has come in! This week, Reps. Derek Kilmer (D-WA) and William Timmons (R-SC), leaders of the House Select Committee on Modernization of Congress, join to share details about their groundbreaking, successful work trying to fix Congress. Their innovative approach to the Select committee helped to develop over 200 recommendations to modernize the way Congress operates - many of which have already been implemented. And they are actually pretty funny too.
This episode of the GovNavigators Show is not to be missed.

Episode 33: Conspiracy Theories Abound in Hershey, PA
After returning from Hershey, PA from the ACT-IAC Imagination #ELC23 conference, Robert and Adam sit down with some of the power players who made it possible. USDA CIO Gary Washington, Safal Partners Malcom Harden, and ACT-IAC CEO Dave Wennergren join the GovNavigators Show to recap one of the biggest government technology conferences of the year.
Show Links
President Biden's Executive Order on Artificial Intelligence

Episode 32: Vanguards of data and IT at the Department of Commerce
The GovNavigators chat with Ryan Higgins, Chief Information Security Officer and Deputy CIO, and Trey Kennedy, Senior Strategic Advisor to the CISO at the Department of Commerce about the challenges of securing data and networks at one of the largest and most diverse federal agencies .
Ryan and Trey talk about nontraditional paths to working in cybersecurity, the soft skills necessary to be successful coordinating across organizations with drastically different missions, and the opportunities they have to raise awareness about the importance of cybersecurity every month (not just during cybersecurity awareness month).

Episode 31: Upheaval in SBA's 8(a) Small Business Development Program
This week, Robert and Adam dive into the inspiring honorees of the Service to America Medals, put on by the Partnership for Public Service, which celebrate extraordinary achievements of public servants (and also dish on the GovNavigators sponsored after party and the emergence of the GovNavigators flu!).
Our guests this week (LaJuanna Russell, CEO of Business Management Associates, and Nichole Atallah and Meghan Leemon with PilieroMazza) share the latest details of changes to SBA's 8(a) Small Business Development Program after some pivotal court rulings and talk about what it will mean for small business government contractors.

Episode 30: Annual Performance Review with the GovNavigators Overlord
Robert and Adam get a visit from The GovNavigators Show overlord Jason Miller to deliver their annual performance review. They discuss the shutdown hangover (the "shutdown letdown"), the latest update to the long-running FITARA scorecard, and an upcoming reorganization at the Federal Acquisition Service at GSA.

Episode 29: Plenty to be Aware of During Cybersecurity Awareness Month
There are a host of activities and initiative underway in the federal government right now, and what better way to mark Cybersecurity Awareness Month than by having Mitch Herckis, Branch Director for Federal Cybersecurity at the Office of Management and Budget on to detail them all for us. Mitch also has an encyclopedic memory of E.O. and M-memo numbers, which warms our hearts at GovNavigators.

Episode 28: Biometrics and the Future of Air Travel
Defying the odds makers, Congress is able to pass a continuing resolution through November 17, buying additional time to try to complete appropriations bills. But how we'll not just end up back where we started remains unclear.
Jason Van Sice, Vice President for Advanced Recognition Systems at NEC Corporation of America joins the show to talk about the use of biometrics in the digital transformation of travel.

Episode 27: Customer Experience Goes Mainstream
The GovNavigators are joined by CX royalty as Martha Dorris from Dorris Consulting International and Charlotte Lee from Granicus join to talk about the evolution of customer experience initiatives in government and their efforts to create the Customer Experience Leadership Institute at the University of Virginia.

Episode 26: Government Can Deliver with Former DHS CIO Richard Spires
Former Federal executive and DHS CIO Richard Spires joins the GovNavigators Show to talk about his latest book, Government Can Deliver: A Practitioner's Guide to Improving Agency Effectiveness and Efficiency. Richard shares advice and stories from his decades in transforming major private sector and government technology operations and the impetus that lead him to write his second book since leaving government service.
Hosts Robert and Adam also cover the latest on budget negotiations, developments in regulating AI, and an upcoming week overflowing with events. Oh - and they also discuss the launch of their new one-stop shop for government news: The Sludge Daily.
Show Notes
White House Secures New AI Pledges
Upcoming Event Links
Route Fifty’s Future Cities Program
ACT-IAC's The Future Evolution of the Workforce
AGA’s Internal Controls & Fraud Event
GovExec's 2023 Leading Brands Breakfast

Episode 25: How to Get it Done with Indiana CDO Josh Martin
Robert and Adam are back after the Labor Day holiday and review the big items on the fall agenda in Washington. And Indiana's Chief Data Officer (and Executive Director of the Indiana Management Performance Hub) Josh Martin joins the GovNavigators Show to talk about Indiana's approach to data and how to get things done in government.
Show Notes
From shutdown prospects to anti-telework bills: 5 things to watch when Congress returns

Episode 24: Back By Popular Demand: Recoding America with Jen Pahlka
As summer draws to a close, the GovNavigators pause to celebrate organized labor - the people who brought you the weekend! And in honor of the long weekend, we bring back the most popular episode of the GovNavigators Show to date - Recoding America with Jen Pahlka.
So grab a cold beverage of your choice, sit back, relax, and enjoy the Labor Day holiday!
Show Notes
Recoding America: Why Government is Failing in the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better

Episode 23: Previewing the Fall Congressional Agenda
Friend of the show Charles Cooper, Managing Partner and Founder of Brumidi Group is back by popular demand! Charles joins Robert and Adam to discuss the overflowing fall agenda for Congress as the August recess draws to a close. From appropriations and the potential for a government shutdown to the farm bill, NDAA, tax extenders, Chinese tariffs, and the Senate appointment process, they cover a lot of ground.
Robert and Adam also lean on the GovNavigators intern (and give a h/t to Wayne's World) to flashback to Charles's previous appearance to determine if his prediction turned out to be true.
Show Notes:
Eric Katz GovExec article: Slashing the federal workforce and eliminating agencies: Takeaways from the first Republican presidential debate

Episode 22: How to Improve Public Trust in Government
Trust in government in the United States has dropped drastically since the 1960s, hovering as low as 20% in some recent surveys. Srikant Sastry, leader of Cherry Bekaert's Advisory Services and Ed DeSeve, Coordinator of the Agile Government Center at NAPA (and Senior Advisor at GovNavigators) join the show to talk about their recent op-ed in GovExec titled, "Trust in the federal government is in a tailspin. Here's how agencies can rebuild it."
Show Links:
Commission on PPBE Reform Interim Report
Agile Government Center Framework
Treasury Seeks Greater Data Sharing in Interagency Plan to Curb Improper Payments

Episode 21: It’s New To You Summer Promo
Robert and Adam stay light on their feet this week and wiggle out of a jam by rebroadcasting a previously recorded episode of the GovNavigators Podcast...I mean the GovNavigators Show.
Don't miss one of the original episodes when friends joined the show from far and wide. And shout out to late 1990's NBC execs for their "It's New to You" summer promo campaign.