Episode 111: Soraya Correa on Rethinking Federal Procurement
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Episode 111: Soraya Correa on Rethinking Federal Procurement

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Soraya Correa, President and CEO of National Industries for the Blind and a longtime leader in federal acquisition, joins the show to reflect on her career and what's next for procurement reform. Soraya shares stories from her time building the Procurement Innovation Lab at DHS, offers a no-nonsense take on the FAR overhaul, and explains why empowering contracting officers—and bridging the gap between government and industry—matters more than ever.

Show Notes
JWOD
: Javits-Wagner-O'Day Act
PIL: Procurement Innovation Lab
EO
: Restoring Common Sense to Federal Procurement 

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
June 10, 2025:
Arnold Ventures event on Impoundment 
June 11, 2025: House Oversight and Government Reform Hearing on Reforming Defense Procurement 

June 25, 2025: ACT-IAC's Data & Analytics Forum 

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Episode 110: The Oracle Returns: Charles Cooper on What’s Next
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Episode 110: The Oracle Returns: Charles Cooper on What’s Next

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Charles Cooper, Managing Partner and Founder of the Brumidi Group, returns to offer his no-nonsense forecast for what’s next on Capitol Hill. From budget reconciliation drama and appropriations gridlock to tariff tensions and the 2026 election, Charles breaks down the policy, politics, and personalities shaping the months ahead—and why even a missed vote could change everything.

Show Notes
OMB: Technical Supplement to the 2026 Budget 
GAODOT and the Impoundment Act

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
June 3, 2025: 


June 5, 2025: Committee on oversight AI in Government Hearing  

June 6, 2025: ACT-IAC's Health Innovation Summit

June 25, 2025: ACT-IAC's Data & Analytics Forum 

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Episode 109: Pop-Up Episode: Honoring Memorial Day!
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Episode 109: Pop-Up Episode: Honoring Memorial Day!

The GovNavigators take a moment to honor Memorial Day and reflect on the sacrifices made in service to our country. With Congress narrowly advancing a reconciliation package before the long weekend, Robert and Adam also remember longtime good government champion Gerry Connolly.

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Episode 108: Looking Under the Hood: Joshua Seawell and the Abundance Agenda
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Episode 108: Looking Under the Hood: Joshua Seawell and the Abundance Agenda

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Joshua Seawell, Head of Policy at the Inclusive Abundance Initiative, joins to break down the thinking behind the Abundance Agenda. Joshua shares how this emerging framework blends high-return public investment with regulatory reform to tackle challenges in housing, energy, AI, and government modernization. 

Show Notes
GAO: 2025 Annual Report 
BookAbundanceby  Ezra Klein & Derek Thompson
EPRA
Energy Permitting Reform Act 

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
May 21, 2025: GovNavigators Webinar with National Journal
May 22, 2025: PSC's FedHealth Conference

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Episode 107: Reimagining Evaluation: A New Vision with Justin Baer
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Episode 107: Reimagining Evaluation: A New Vision with Justin Baer

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Justin Baer, Senior Vice President at Fors Marsh, returns to share his perspective on the future of federal evaluation. Drawing from his recent article, Justin outlines why traditional approaches to evidence building are falling short—and what needs to change. 

Show Notes
GovExec: The Baer Method: A Roadmap for Agile Evidence Building 

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
May 13: AGA's Performance Counts Summit
May 22: PSC's FedHealth Conference

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Episode 106: Rethinking Government with David Walker
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Episode 106: Rethinking Government with David Walker

This week on the GovNavigators Show, former Comptroller General David M. Walker joins to discuss his tenure leading the Government Accountability Office and his mission to drive lasting reform across the federal government. He reflects on how he transformed GAO into a more efficient, strategically focused agency and makes the case for why the rest of government must follow suit.

Show Notes
GSA: OneGov Strategy for IT

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
May 4-6: ACT-IAC's Emerging Technology & Innovation Conference
May 5-9: Public Service Recognition Week
May 7: AABPA Panel on Budget and Performance  
May 13: AGA’s Performance Counts Summit 

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Episode 105: Navigating Federal Real Estate with Norm Dong
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Episode 105: Navigating Federal Real Estate with Norm Dong

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Norm Dong, Partner at FD Stonewater, joins to share insights from his distinguished career managing the federal government’s vast real estate portfolio. Reflecting on his tenure in public service, he discusses the complexities of property disposal, the impact of return-to-office policies on government facilities, and how agencies are adapting their real estate strategies for the future.

Show Notes
GSA: Top Ten Contractor Update 

Executive Order: Strengthening Probationary Periods in the Federal Service

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
April 29: UiPath's Ushering in the Era of Efficiency 
May 4-6: ACT-IAC's Emerging Technology and Innovation Conference 
May 13: AGA's Performance Counts Summit

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Episode 104: Unpacking the Budget: A Conversation with Andy Pavord
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Episode 104: Unpacking the Budget: A Conversation with Andy Pavord

This week on the GovNavigators Show, Andrew Pavord joins to reflect on a career that spans academia, local and federal government, and the private sector. As President of the American Association for Budget and Program Analysis and CEO of the Federal Consulting Alliance, he unpacks the budget reconciliation process and its impact on fiscal policy. Recorded just before the latest bill’s passage, the conversation explores congressional procedures, spending limits, and what it will take to confront the growing deficit.

Show Notes
Executive Orders: 

Congress: House Unlocks Reconciliation 

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar

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Episode 103: A Conversation with Tim Brennan: Navigating the Road Ahead
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Episode 103: A Conversation with Tim Brennan: Navigating the Road Ahead

This week, the GovNavigators are joined by Tim Brennan, Vice President of Government Relations at Professional Services Council, to discuss how PSC is helping its members navigate today’s uncertain political climate. Tim highlights PSC’s role in sharing information, identifying opportunities, and keeping a close eye on developments at the Capitol. He also previews PSC’s annual conference and why now is the perfect time for industry leaders to come together and strategize for the road ahead.

Show Notes
Executive Orders: 

Congress: House Unlocks Reconciliation 

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
April 17: EDM Council's Public Sectors Forum: The Data Foundation on the Future of Data Transparency
April 22: ACT-IAC's Federal Tech Market Update II
April 27-29: PSC Annual Conference

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Episode 102: Part 2: David Lebryk's Adventures in the Government
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Episode 102: Part 2: David Lebryk's Adventures in the Government

This week on the GovNavigators Show, we wrap up our two-part conversation with David Lebryk, former Fiscal Assistant Secretary at the U.S. Treasury. In Part 2, David reflects on nearly 40 years of public service, the power of leadership, and what really happens inside Treasury. He shares lessons learned and offers timely advice for today’s federal workforce.

Show Notes
OMB Memo: Accelerating Federal Use of AI

OMB Memo: Driving Efficient Acquisition of AI in the Government 

Derek Thompson: The Abundance Agenda

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
April 8: House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Hearing on Federal Real Estate 

April 9: Senate Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs Committee meeting to vote on nominations of Scott Kupor(OPM Director) and Eric Ueland (OMB DDM) 

April 9: Eptura and JLL’s webinar on right-sizing your federal office

April 22: ACT-IAC's Federal Tech Market Update II   

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Episode 101: Part 1: David Lebryk's Adventures in the Government
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Episode 101: Part 1: David Lebryk's Adventures in the Government

This week on the GovNavigators Show, we welcome David Lebryk, former Fiscal Assistant Secretary at the U.S. Department of the Treasury, for Part 1 of a two-part conversation. David shares the path that led him from a childhood shaped by public service to a decades-long career in government. He reflects on the people, programs, and pivotal moments that influenced his journey, and why his story might be a blueprint for the next generation of public servants.

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
April 3, 2025: 

April 9, 2025:

  • Eptura and JLL’s webinar on right-sizing your federal office  

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Episode 100: 100th Episode Special: Government Efficiency with Allison Brigati & Dan Heckman
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Episode 100: 100th Episode Special: Government Efficiency with Allison Brigati & Dan Heckman

This week, the GovNavigators welcome Allison Brigati, former Deputy Administrator of the General Services Administration, and Daniel Heckman, CEO of MSI Consulting, to share lessons learned from the first Trump administration’s push for government efficiency. They discuss overcoming resistance to change, and harnessing automation and AI to modernize government functions. Additionally, they reflect on how these strategies could shape current reform efforts as we enter Trump’s second term.

Show Notes
President's Management Agenda: Trump Administration(2018), Cap Goal 6 Pg. 32

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
March 24: FedRAMP 2025 Discussion with Pete Waterman 

March 26-28: Coleridge Initiative's Annual Convening

March 28: NAPA’s Standing Panel on Executive Organization and Management

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Episode 99: Ed Amorosi: “Well-Nigh Irrefragable Proof” and the Legal Battles Ahead
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Episode 99: Ed Amorosi: “Well-Nigh Irrefragable Proof” and the Legal Battles Ahead

Ed Amorosi, partner at Haynes Boone, joins the GovNavigators this week to discuss the legal battles over executive orders, personnel dismissals, and contract cancellations. He unpacks the jurisdictional disputes complicating these cases, their broader implications, and the upcoming court decisions that could set major precedents—including long-awaited clarity on the Impoundment Act.

Happy St. Patrick's Day!

Show Notes
Executive Order 14222Federal agencies review all federal contracts & grants

Executive Order 14151: Eliminating DEI Programs

NIH: Indirect Cost Rates: Supplemental guidance 

"Well-nigh irrefragable proof:" The high standard for showing bad faith by a government official in terminating a contract for convenience

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
March 19: ACT-IAC's Emerging Tech Demo Day
March 20: AWS’ Federal Forum 

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Episode 98: Diving into the GAO High-Risk List with GAO's Nikki Clowers
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Episode 98: Diving into the GAO High-Risk List with GAO's Nikki Clowers

This week, the GovNavigators welcome Nikki Clowers, Managing Director of the Office of Congressional Relations at GAO, to explore the vital role GAO plays in supporting oversight on Capitol Hill. She breaks down the GAO High Risk List—why it matters, how it guides government reform, and what it reveals about agencies in need of transformation. 

Show Notes
GAO: High-Risk Report
Trump's Joint Address to Congress: Key Highlights

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar

March 11: The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Hearing: Moving from Recovery to Prevention of Improper Payments and Fraud 

March 13: FedScoop’s Federal Forum 

March 12: ACT-IAC's Federal Tech Market Update

March 19: ACT-IAC's Emerging Tech Demo Day

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Episode 97: Betsy Beaumon: Shaking Up Social Security—Silicon Valley Style
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Episode 97: Betsy Beaumon: Shaking Up Social Security—Silicon Valley Style

From Silicon Valley to just north of Capitol Hill, Betsy Beaumon joins the GovNavigators Show to share how she brought tech-driven transformation to the Social Security Administration. She reflects on her personal connection to SSA’s mission, the creation of the Office of Transformation, and the major strides made in improving security, operations, and customer experience.

Show Notes
GAO: High-Risk Report
DOGE EO: Implementing the President's "Department of Government Efficiency" Cost Efficiency Initiative 

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
March 4: The President addresses a Joint Session of Congress at 9:00 p.m. ET
March 12: ACT-IAC's Federal Tech Market Update
March 19: ACT-IAC's Emerging Tech Demo Day

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Episode 96: A Conversation with Kelly Morrison: Driving Government Efficiency with Data 
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Episode 96: A Conversation with Kelly Morrison: Driving Government Efficiency with Data 

This week, The GovNavigators welcomes one of our favorite guests, Kelly Morrison, Senior Vice President at HumanTouch. With a distinguished 16-year tenure in the federal government she shares insights from her federal service and explores how data management and modernization can drive efficiency within DOGE's mission. 

Show Notes
Presidential Actions:  

OPM Memos: 

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
February 25: House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Hearing on GAO’s High-Risk List. 

March 12 : ACT-IAC's Federal Tech Market Update 

March 19: ACT-IAC's Emerging Tech Demo Day

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Episode 95: Pop Up Episode: Happy Presidents’ Day!
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Episode 95: Pop Up Episode: Happy Presidents’ Day!

The GovNavigators would like to take a moment to honor Presidents Day as we prepare for another busy week. The DOGE mania is in full swing, and Congress is scheduled to hear a budget resolution on the House floor following the Presidents' Day recess.

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Episode 94: Catching Up with C-SPAN's Howard Mortman
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Episode 94: Catching Up with C-SPAN's Howard Mortman

As the new administration takes shape, C-SPAN's Director of Communications, Howard Mortman, joins the GovNavigators to share insights on the network's coverage, from confirmation hearings to shifts between administrations and what's on the network's horizon.

Show Notes
Trump Administration Actions: Deferred Resignation Program Blocked by Federal Judge
Find Federal Expenditures: USASpending.gov

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
February 13: Shared Services Leadership Coalition’s Forum on its Transformation Proposal. RSVP by emailing Info@sharedservicesnow.org or registering here.   February 19-20: AGA’s National Leadership Training  
February 20: PSC’s Federal Law Enforcement Conference 

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Episode 93: Reflections with Amy Edwards Holmes, Executive Director of GovEx
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Episode 93: Reflections with Amy Edwards Holmes, Executive Director of GovEx

As the Bloomberg Center for Government Excellence marks its 10th anniversary, Executive Director Amy Edwards Holmes joins the GovNavigators show to reflect on GovEx’s impact and unveil her next steps. She discusses the center’s strides in modernizing data for real-world change and shares her insights on the future of AI in government.

Show Notes
OMB Memo: Federal Financial Assistance Pause Rescinded
OPM Memo: Federal Administrative Leave 
2025 Fed 100: List Announced

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
February 2: PSC’s Annual Leadership Summit  
February 4-6: Shared Services Leadership Coalition’s Event: Federal Shared Services - Leveraging a Best Practice to Improve Government 
February 19: ACT-IAC's Digital Transformation Summit
February 19-20: AGA’s National Leadership Training  
February 20: PSC’s Federal Law Enforcement Conference 

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Episode 92: Chasing Waste, Fraud, and Abuse: The DOGE Caucus Vision with Congressman Sessions
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Episode 92: Chasing Waste, Fraud, and Abuse: The DOGE Caucus Vision with Congressman Sessions

As the new administration takes control, government efficiency takes center stage. Congressman Pete Sessions, Chair of the DOGE Caucus, joins the GovNavigators to discuss the role of the DOGE Caucus, his vision for government modernization, and his efforts to reduce waste, fraud, and abuse in government.

Show Notes
Trump Administration's First Week: Presidential Actions
Congressional Testimony: Examining a Path Forward to Assess Agencies’ Efforts to Prevent Improper Payments & Fraud
Inauguration Recap: Five Key Moments

Events on the GovNavigators' Radar
January 30: Growth Officers Association’s Navigating Federal Procurement Event
February 2: PSC’s Annual Leadership Summit  
February 4-6: Shared Services Leadership Coalition’s Event: Federal Shared Services - Leveraging a Best Practice to Improve Government 
February 19: ACT-IAC's Digital Transformation Summit
February 19-20: AGA’s National Leadership Training  
February 20: PSC’s Federal Law Enforcement Conference 

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